To accept 24 hours teaching commitment would be very disrepectful of those who in the past fought hard to get their teaching down to a managable level.

It would be the thin edge of the wedge to accept 24 hours. Giving up those kinds of conditions would be wrong.

It just shows the lack of respect that the current management have for their staff to even ask them give up hard fought conditions.

Stand your ground and fight this. If you don't working conditions will return to Victorian slave shops

All lecturers agree 24 is wrong (despite the fact that most colleges are already doing it - Jewel and Esk do 12 x 2 hr slots for comparison.)

I hope everyone gets as excited saying NO to people losing their jobs.

If the ballot returns a no vote then I'm sure strike action is the next step, if the case, let us see all EIS members participate, not the same as the protocol issue, where I viewed EIS member CM's carry on as norm, is it part of CM job description that spine removal is mandatory??

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It is certainly not the case that CM's have their spines removed. I could name several who stood firm on the protocol issue. It is just this kind of thoughtless intolerant spouting that leads to the disunity which is evident at the moment. Get your facts straight before driving wedges between members and colleagues.

People openly talk in meetings about looking after their own teams. That's understandable but misses the point about being a "union".

As my Uncle Danny used to say - "the ba's burst"

If you all dont stick together and fight together then management will have won. Divide and conquer is their aim. You must all fight as one teaching and support staff. Look after each other.

Telford is now named 'Camp Twin Creeks' for the summer

WHY,WHY,WHY MUST the ordinary staff and their families suffer for the mismanagement of any company, college or local authority while management get richer ?

They do not have ANY control over what the idiot management are doing yet in many many cases its the hard working front line staff who are blackmailed into cuts in pay and conditions.

BA staff , Telford Staff, Council Staff........... About time people rebelled at this and fought back at this. Ignore the calls for calm from management.

Interesting reading ....

http://www.unison.org.uk/asppresspack/pres...se_view.asp?id=1472

and if you read some of the earlier posts in this forum you will see that there is quite a lot of references made to this problem and the utter failures of the senior management to see that they had an overarching 'Duty of Care' for the wellbeing of their staff during the many restructuring processes. 10 years on they STILL fail to recognise this.

In my opinion , they should be held to account for this failure as it has affected many people's health and lifes. Why should these members of staff suffer for the failures and mismanagement by senior management?

So a departing senior member of management staff cynically e-mails reminding us that he has 'successfully trousered his golden handshake'.

... and another five figure sum or so disappears out of the coffers from the extra cash that Government has allocated to Telford for future development.

No 'gold stars' for sensitivity there then !!

'Telford Senior Management' and the 'Board of Management' have distanced themselves so far from working staff for many years now ... that they are now quite out of sight !!

Multiple Choice question :

The last time a Senior Member of Staff was witnessed actually deigning to approach a mere member of teaching staff to discuss day-to-day issues was
a) 10 years,
b) 12 years,
c) .. years (fill in the blank)

Fiona Baikie
Michael Taylor
Alexander Inglis OBE
Robert McLeod OBE

The past principals of Telford College may have had their faults as some point but each of them had the interest of the students foremost and each of the fought long and hard for the wellbeing of their staff. The staff made Telford. It was not any fancy building nor was it a fancyful ideal of being World Class. The staff were a world class team because they simply work hard together. The principal took an interest in every member of staff. Alex Inglis took time to get to know his staff and would always welcome new members of staff warmly. Mike Taylor bravely lead the college through difficult and challenging times both personally and for FE. He,in his own way , fought for the wellbeing of the staff and students. He did acknowledge the effort made by staff during the tough times. Fiona Baike knew her staff and fought as hard as she could against the outside influences and pressures which I think they could no longer be contained.

As for Robert MacLeod, I believe,from what I have heard, he was also fair to both staff and students.

I would agree whole heartly that the current management are so distant now they have lost the original philosophy of what the aim of the college is about.

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No more than he or anyone other member of staff with that length of service was entitled to under the rules used (although agreed it was very badly put).
The real issue is that some members of staff are being paid (and will continue to be paid) over and above the grade they are responsible for. It currently costs the college over £300K a year. An issue senior management refuses (or is too scared) to look at and a case of we're alright jack from the unions.

How many jobs would £300K save?

Additional funding for colleges announced...
http://www.sfc.ac.uk/news_events_circulars...s/2009/SFC2409.aspx

and in the small print...

none for Telford due to mismanagement of WSUMS submissions to SFC.

When will they do the honourable thing?