Is futureman really Harvey Milk resurrected and in drag??

   Posing as someone who seems to be high on some kind of " Dusty old Junk " , and can't comprehend the historical value of these great antiques , Futureman's clever , negative , and ignorant attitude will only inspire us all to help save the museum . Keep it up Futureman ! We know you're here to help .

Hey Futureman! Why not just dump our heritage, history and maybe even something like the Smithsonian.....it's all old (in your words) crap!

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Why save the musee mekooky?? Its just a bunch of dusty old junk. Why not just collect all the junk in all the attics in SanFrancisco, and make a musee mekooky of all that crap.

Edited by author 03-13-2002 03:28 AM
Old Fortune Teller,read your cards for us fast ,
Bring us good fortune,as you've done in the past .
The Futureman will whine ,
But Our History must shine ,
May your magical home,indeed ever last .

The Board of Supervisors' Transportation and Commerce Committee (McGoldrick, Hall, & Ammiano) are having a meeting regarding the closure of the MUSEE MECANIQUE THIS THURSDAY at 9:30am in Room 263 at City Hall. The Musee is Item #6 on the agenda; Supervisor McGoldrick's office expects that the Musee issue will come up around 11:15 to 11:30am. For more info go to http://www.ci.sf.ca.us/bdsupvrs/committees/transport.htm

Apparently Ed Zelinsky (the owner of the Musee) will be there. The public is encouraged to come and comment regarding why it is important to save the Musee Mecanique. I think it is important that the Board hear directly from as many people as possible at this stage in their deliberation process. People can also send in written comments before the hearing to become part of the public record. Please try to come to the meeting, and encourage others to come who may be able to make it!

I also have been trying to coordinate the efforts to save the Musee Mecanique, and am interested in connecting with any of you that also have been trying to get the effort organized. You can e-mail me at savemuseemecanique@yahoo.com.

maybe when they find a new home for the Musee, they can dig up Herb Caen's coffin and put it next to ol' Laughing Sal. And maybe put some old crusty bong pipes from the Grateful Dead's Summer of Love Days too.

they should tear down the Musee Mecanikee, and build a new state-of-the-art Internet Cafe. Then maybe, SanFrancisco could do virtual tours of all the old things that were torn down for, THE FUTURE. Like the telegraph and 8 track tape machines.

get over it. The Museum will maybe find a new place. If not, it will probably crumble into the sea in a few years. Its not a big deal if the Museum goes away. There is this thing called the FUTURE, you know.

For a good idea of what the MM looks like:
http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/musee/mechanique.html

KFOG's morning show is also campaigning to save the Musee. They had Ed Zelinsky, owner of the Musee, as a guest at 7:50am, Monday, March 4th, 2002. Ed said that storing the machines during the renovation is not a viable solution: "They would not hold up in storage. They would break down...There's a lot of maintenance involved." He is meeting with the Park Superintendent this week to discuss options, but since an earlier possibility of moving the Musee up the hill fell through, Ed sounds as though he's not counting on the Park Service coming through with an immediate solution. The KFOG team asked if Ed would be willing to work with the private sector and he said he'd be delighted to. He said ideally he'd like to keep the Musee at Cliff House or nearby (e.g. at the Merry Way site where that parking lot is), but it is clear his first priority is to keep the collection on display somewhere.

(By the way, I have a webpage up now where I'm collecting info on the Musee and the campaign(s) to save it. The URL is http://www.metagrrrl.com/musee/)

This January 10, 2002 article by Merilee Enge from the Press Democrat http://www.pressdemocrat.com/outdoor/featu...0cliffhouse_d1.html gives more info on the vague plans of the GGNRA for the Musee and a positive view of the future of the Camera Obscura:

"The Musee Mechanique, a private collection of antique carnival games now in the Cliff House's crumbling basement, will move to better quarters at the new center. Strahan said these elements of the restoration are still in the feasibility stage; no cost estimates are yet available.

One thing that won't change is the Camera Obscura, a giant viewing lens housed within a kitschy camera-shaped structure on the oceanside walkway of the Cliff House. The only one of its kind in the United States, the camera is listed on the National Register of Historic Places."

I'm working to try to pull together all the various groups hoping to save the Musee. I have not yet talked to the folks at the Musee and that's a first step, but with their approval, I'm hoping to put together a public brainstorming session next week. With any luck, I can get some folks from the GGNRA to attend. I'll post more info once I have it.

By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but the camera obscura could be moved, it would just have a different view. Right? So if we could find a new and beautiful locale for both the Camera and the Musee, they might both get the attention, attendance and funding they deserve. Or am I misunderstanding the way it works?

there is also a movement of some sort with someone at savemusee@yahoo.com - i'm hoping that at some point soon, all of the various petitions and coalitions will coalesce into a larger group of some sort that can actually work together to find a new space for the musee. but chas is right, without the musee, the camera obscura probably closes. sigh.