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CMU Grad  17
08-24-2002 05:18 AM ET (US)
Actually.. you can only partially cheat at word cubes if you used the boggle solver on this board. The reason is, as soon as a cube is "removed" the solver is invalidated because it doesn't know how to handle the complexity added by the restricted paths. So the amount of time it would take you to populate the board for the one initial "solve" is probably going to hurt you more than help you.

Now if someone wrote an algorithm that took into account the actual word cube puzzle at worldwinner.com, then you should stress about cheating.

When you play for money, it gives you a time limit of 4.5 minutes to complete all of your moves with a 27 cube puzzle (3 x 3 x 3). I find that games seem to be extremely close most of the time. Last 2 games I played I got beaten by 10 points a piece.

However, their "cut" is over the top. I would understand if worldwinner took 10 cents off the dollar or so, but as it stands for a 2 person game you pay like $2.50 and can win a maximum of $3.50 I think. The money is taken first out of your account, so you stand to gain $1.50, stand to loose $2.50. The total investment being $5.00 from both players and the total payout is $3.50 so worldwinner makes an amazing $1.50 from every game played. Brilliant! Evil, but brilliant! I think their revenues are approximately 1 mill a month.



If you expect an even opponent, the odds are much worse than say.. craps which is near even odds. What's even more amazing is Worldwinner has no reason to fear any loss at all from their operation like a casino does. You could start a worldwinner today and start making money tomorrow!

Anyway, back to the business at hand, I think the boggle solver isn't anything worldwinner players have to fear. Worldwinner players should just fear worldwinner itself : )
Sun  18
11-23-2002 03:44 PM ET (US)
If I use this program to increase my boggle rating, is there any way that a fellow boggler can find out that I used an untangler?
Paul  19
02-06-2003 04:14 AM ET (US)
Hey I was wondering how you made this algorithm. Its nice I am a fellow programer. Could you be able to send me the source code. So I can see how you did it. Thanks for your help. MalibuSurfz@Yahoo.com
Me
Michael  20
04-17-2003 03:24 PM ET (US)
This program's down, for some reason CGI programs spontaneously stopped working on my webhost (HostNuke) and their tech support is being nonresponsive. If I have to move to a new host, it could take a week or more before the program's active again.
Michael  21
07-13-2003 06:01 AM ET (US)
Okay, working fine... enjoy, ya'all.
Vintager  22
09-12-2003 01:53 AM ET (US)
In playing 6 letter Tangleword, I often come across boards in which no one can find a word. Am I the only person who will type those words in just to see what was actually there?
Michael  23
01-25-2004 02:31 PM ET (US)
The solver is going to be down for a little bit while I move to a new host and put the code together again.
Michael  24
04-06-2004 04:38 AM ET (US)
Working again. Enjoy.
gem0703  25
04-10-2004 07:32 AM ET (US)
Could you please give a link to show if this solver has been used?
Michael  26
04-12-2004 02:51 AM ET (US)
Like a log of the past few uses? Yeah, I'm working on that.
tigrrrrr !  27
04-26-2004 05:34 PM ET (US)
oh please hurry on the solver log..these cheaters used to use the other solver..but it has a log and we kept catching them..now they've switched to yours !
gem0703  28
06-21-2004 05:45 PM ET (US)
Any progress on the usage log?
BogOmania  29
10-31-2004 08:16 AM ET (US)
A usage log would be very nice to have at this site. Often catch cheaters using other programs with usage logs....think they come here when caught.
The sooner the better.
Thanks.
gem0703  30
02-05-2005 01:08 PM ET (US)
When can we expect the usage log?
You would like to know  31
08-20-2005 11:43 AM ET (US)
does anyone know where I could get a free tangleword solver with auto-type for playsite
Gem0703  32
08-21-2005 07:45 AM ET (US)
Have you given up on this site now that you have your new site? Are you ever going to provide a usage log so we can catch the cheaters using your solver? It sure would be nice.
Thank you.
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