Edited by author 11-06-2009 05:00 PM
Was he caught buying tickets during his route? He's probably also opened up another can of worms doing that too. If I want to play the lottery it's off duty and out of uniform,and I believe it's against the regulations to do so on duty to play any kind of lottery.

It's under CFR 39 part 447 Rules of Conduct for Postal Employees section 447:21 as quote: (g) No employee while on property owned or leased by the Postal Service or the United States or while on duty, shall participate in any gambling activity, including the operation of a gambling device, in conducting or acting as an agent for a lottery or pool, in conducting a game for money or property, or in selling or purchasing a numbers slip or ticket.

Can someone tell me if a ptf carrier can get in trouble for buying and scratching off the scratch type lottery tickets while on the clock?We are about to have a situation here i'm afraid.Any advise would be appreciated.thank you

Edited by author 11-06-2009 01:57 PM
ANK /m49351
We had route adj. and not FSS.

Tim /m49352
Some choices are closer to home eliminating a long commute. WE ALSO GET TO KEEP OUR FULL SENIORITY AT NEW LOCATION... pretty cool.

Gomer21 /m49344 Actually, notice on the PS form 1564-A, where it states "Approximate Break Location(s)." Since it doesn't state "Exact," then you can take your breaks wherever you want to, in your line of travel. There's even an arbitration ruling on this. But notice with that same form, dealing with lunch time and location. It actually shows a time that you are authorized to leave your route to go to lunch and three locations. And there's a Step 4 decision on this matter.

M-00262 Step 4 July 9, 1982, H8N-4E-C 5081
Management should determine at what point on the route the carrier should break for lunch. The distance to a suitable lunch location should be measured from that point, and if the lunch place is more than one-half mile from the point of lunch break, the carrier is entitled to transportation to and from lunch.

But as far as your lunch scans go, you get to them when you get to them. No two days are the same. And what if you're like me, an odl carrier. And you're casing another route or doing a pivot on another one in the middle of the day. Then you're not going to be at your lunch scan on time. And somebody else on here, a while back, found something in management's own manual about MSP scan points, and what declares the scan as on-time. It was like, give or take one hour.

But as far as flexibility about when you can take your lunch, I don't know about that. Flexibility in this organization can get you in trouble. The whole point of the PS form 1564-A is for management and postal inspectors to know your vehicle's whereabouts at all times. And when you break for lunch, and your lunch location is deviating from your line of travel, that's why there are lunch locations on that form. For them to know where your LLV is at. Not you. Just your vehicle.

Excessing /m49350 why would you volunteer to go anywhere if you are not the one being excessed? Just curious

Excessing where you from has FSS been implemented in your area or routes taken by route adjustments?

FedUp and anyone that can help.

several carriers are being excessed out of our office. The senior carriers received a letter of all withheld positions in the district to select choices in order of preference if we wish to go voluntarily in lieu of the excessed carriers. We senior carriers were told that if we don't get our choice then we might be assigned to a position on the list in some other city and lose our current positions. IS THIS CORRECT INFO? Don't we get to drop out of the plan and remain in our current position if we don't get one of our choices? (Or do we risk our position)
THANKYOU IN ADVANCE

Gomer: I see it this way. If you wanted to have a different break location on a specific day (say to take your break at home or whatever) mgt MAY allow you to do so, but they don't HAVE to let you.
Your break locations are set on the form in your route book and are supposed to be agreed on mutually between mgt and the carrier. If your nutjob PM wants to change your break locations against your wishes, that's a unilateral change in working conditions and you might could fight it on that basis.

Darnshane and James /m49344 I know not to fall for it but it's the old "obey now, grieve later syndrome" M-01458 states "carriers may be authorized" to leave at a different time and place. This sentence alone tells idiot that he "may or may not" authorize a deviation does it not?

some of these carriers piss me off. we have a carrier (14yr vet / T-6) who is a shizter. he volunteered to call the TE and give him instructions. he was kissing the supe's rear-end. i seen the whole thing. it was cell phone to cell phone. the supe was standing by telling him what the say. i had a long talk with the OIC over this. the T-6 had the TE came back to the station because he didn't feel like going out there. it's a lot more to it.

the bottom line is this T-6 took advantage of a TE just trying to do his job and a lazy ass stupidvisor failed to do hers.

Gomer21: /m49344 don't fall for that crap.

M/49344 Check out M-01458

MSP lunch scans, I knew it was just a matter of time before I had to deal with this. I've been avoiding it because handbooks and manuals are rather vague on this. Today the stupervisor started to preach "lunch scans", manual says "carriers may be authorized" to leave at a different time and place and we are to scan when we reach the scans. My question is "may be authorized" kind of says that we have to request a deviation. If I had a lunch scan that was early on my route, I could always be there within 6 hours, therefore i should never have to deviate from that scan point. But due to things like weather, I may want to wait until later in the day to eat (of course within 6 hours) but I should have that flexibility to decide on any given day, just when I do break for lunch. Can they even dictate where we break, my scan is quite far into my route and on any above average day, I cannot get there within 6 hours, now they want to change mt chosen break point. Can they do that?

Tim /m49339
That is what happened, the shop steward told the carrier not to answer the question after the PDI started, which disrupted the PDI. I never said the shop steward could not participate, but to stop the PDI to discuss rather or not to answer a question. The carrier Wiengarten Rights were not violated. That is what my Informal A grievance stated. Labor deals with management's side of the grievance process, I am NALC brother.

thanks.

Archie Oogley /m49340 Yes.