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07:36 AM ET (US)
Hi, I'm just wondering if this list is still active?
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Allison TaylorPerson was signed in when posted
11:32 AM ET (US)
Has anyone actually dealt with the Walter De Gruyter license at

It is basically a "click through" agreement. It is not very good for libraries. Has anyone had success in getting it changed?
Edited 06-30-2004 11:38 AM
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Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
11:21 AM ET (US)
Any thoughts on the Elsevier periodicals listings at:

I notice that some links lead directly to a journal page, whereas others have a javascript popup
Allison TaylorPerson was signed in when posted
01:22 PM ET (US)
Does anyone have any suggestions or experiences to share about the Annals of Pharmacotherapy? (

About once every two months, we completely lose access with them.. it's very frustrating! Any success stories?
Allison TaylorPerson was signed in when posted
01:40 PM ET (US)
Please excuse cross posting

For many institutional libraries, particularly hospitals and clinics, security issues have always prohibited the libraries from accessing online journals via IP addresses.

The Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry is pleased to announce the availability of online access by institutional user name and password.

The library administrator will control all user names and passwords. Library patrons will have access to online content but will be unable to access the account maintenance page.

For institutions interested in activating their subscription to the Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry online via institutional user name and password, please contact the Journal business office, We will send you activation instructions and answer any further questions.


Meg McGough
Marketing and Subscriptions
The Journal of Histochemistry and Cytochemistry

Wow! Progress!

Info from a Liblicense Listserv post.
Allison TaylorPerson was signed in when posted
09:33 AM ET (US)
Thanks Shana! From me, and I'm sure most of our Medical school!
Shana Hinge
12:39 AM ET (US)
Ive recently discovered that NEJM will be offering site licences in 2004 via HARRASSOWITZ subscription services.

Please see link:
So hopefully user friendly site wide access will be available in the near future. Its about time NEJM!!!

Shana Hinge
Administrative Coordinator/ Subscriptions Manager
Royal Adelaide Hospital/Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science Library PO Box 14 Rundle Mall, ADELAIDE SA 5000, AUSTRALIA
Ph 61 8 8222 3681 Fax 618 8 8222 3152

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Allison TaylorPerson was signed in when posted
04:41 PM ET (US)

NEJM just decided to cut off our institutions username and password access in anticipation of our Aug 31 subscription term ending. We had one of our six subscriptions with Divine and that was the active account, so they shut it down, and now we have no access.

5 workstations per subscription for a school that has way more than 500 workstations (not counting remote users!) is just not acceptable. They need to come up with a better access model, and soon. I think we'd even consider paying for e-access only instead of using the print journal, if they'd just make it an option!

Plus, we've just switched our IP scheme to proxy only, and NEJM does not accept Proxy servers!
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Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
09:52 AM ET (US)
The debate about the changes to Springer's URLs is taking place on LIS-E-JOURNALS at:
Edited 07-02-2003 09:52 AM
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07:56 PM ET (US)
For about 3-4 years now, I've asked the Chronicle of Higher Education when they are going to offer access by IP instead of password. For the last two years the response has been that IP access is forthcoming.
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
09:35 AM ET (US)
American Medical Association titles are moving to Highwire. That's OK, but they are now asking for '3 designated IP addresses', instead of Class B. This is a major step backwards.
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
06:59 AM ET (US)
Lawrence Erlbaum's new pricing for online access in 2003:
Allison TaylorPerson was signed in when posted
10:04 AM ET (US)
One that gets me is Value Line Investment Surveys. Access is by username and password, but, (here's the great part) you are only allowed to use the un/pw in the library. Now how to do you stop people from using it outside of the library when you give them a username and password? Of course, you can always purchase multiuser site licensing by IP address...
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Dan Lester
04:32 PM ET (US)
My current pet peeve is the Lewiston Morning Tribune (Idaho). It is arguably the best paper in the state, and their online system is a beta test for the Salt Lake Tribune. They're There is almost no full text content available except to subscribers. Subscribers can get a login and password, which we've done. To get IP access you have to pay $200 a year extra for current and another $200 extra per year for the archive, beyond the cost of the paper subscription.

They admit that all students could access it with the login and password, and don't care if we give it to all students, but they won't give us IP access without extra payments, since then "everybody could use it" (just as they can with login and PW).

Quite simply we do NOT do login and PW. PERIOD.

They're bad PR to the biggest university in the state.
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
12:52 PM ET (US)
Sage Publications is pulling all of their journals' full text from all aggregate databases. More will be posted as this story unfolds....stay tuned...
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
03:48 PM ET (US)
Family Process from
"Users accessing through your organization will be required to provide the institution code along with their email address. They will be immediately emailed a temporary password valid for 24 hours of access to full-text articles. There is no limit to access within a 24 hour period or how many times they follow this procedure for access." No comment...
Marie Errboe
03:41 AM ET (US)
A - Marie Errboe
Yes, you are correct. Journal of Periodontology is a non-ip, username/password title.
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Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
01:11 PM ET (US)
Journal of Periodontology - am I correct in assuming that this is a non-ip, username/password title?
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Allison Taylor
05:20 PM ET (US)
Harcourt Health Sciences titles on Ideal! A lot of them are out of date. (One title, American Journal of Kidney Diseases, is a year out of date!)
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
09:19 AM ET (US)
Re: Academic Medicine. I have added the username/password info to the record for this in our e-journal database. The info is ONLY seen by users coming in via our proxy server, or those on campus.
Louise Cole
08:34 AM ET (US)
Re: Academic Medicine - their website states "At this time, institutions can purchase single subscriptions; institution-wide subscriptions are not available. If your institution has a paper subscription, it will be eligible to have an electronic version of the journal as well." As we tend to stay clear of any restrictions on site-wide access, we've just flagged up the free access to backfiles, after one year, and left current content unaccessible.
Jude A. Lynch
10:51 AM ET (US)
Our library now has print + one concurrent user per active subscription for our American Medical Association titles. A big frustration for our users is the fact that, when all user slots are in use, the system does not display a message stating this. Instead, we get a log-in/registration page leading our users to assume that our campus does not have access or that our access has been cut off. It also makes it harder for us to trouble-shoot when we have a valid problem with their website. Is anyone else dealing with this problem?

Jude A. Lynch
Briscoe Library - UTHSCSA
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Cath Watkins
11:14 AM ET (US)
Not strictly an ejournal, but SeaWeb (Lloyd's Register of Ships) set all passwords to expire every month so the first person who logs at the beginning of the month is asked to change the password. We have to make sure that we get there first... and pray that nobody notices the "change password" button at the top of the search screen!

Cath Watkins
Systems Support
Southampton Institute Library
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Ros Doig
10:44 AM ET (US)
I join in with the University of Chcago Press headache. - E-access is limited to the sites where the journals are kept in effect. ie If you take three titles one on each of three sites then only that title can be viewed at that site exclusively.
No can do here - our network doesn't operate with exclusive IP addresses for each site.
I argued the point for months and the final offer was - ok then university wide access but only if you promise not to cancel for two years.....
At that point we decided we'd have to do without the access.
Ros Doig
Serials and Inter-lending Libarian
University of Derby, England
margaret clennett
06:55 AM ET (US)
The Society for General Microbiology and University of Chicago Press are two of my major headaches. The former appears to be passing the buck to Highwire, which does now have some inkling about the problems of British medical libraries who use NHSnet but has not yet found a solution. The University of Chicago Press is now aware of the problem, but does not appear to be interested in finding a solution or offering user name/password access.
Shana Hinge
12:00 AM ET (US)
We are unable to provide IP ranges and addresses due to the set up of our network and always request access to online journals via username and password. This also allows our users to access the titles from outside the organisation ie at home or while travelling abroad.

The publishers do not want to co-operate and/or understand our situation and are constantly insisting on access via IP. Some of these journals include nature, jama, archives journals, cell press titles. We are paying a high premium for these journals and I think the publishers should be a lot more flexible in these situations.
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
06:26 AM ET (US)
Non-gripe: All of Bentham Science Publisher's journals, published in the years 2000 and 2001, are now available free on-line in full text PDF form in collaboration with INGENTA. This unique offer is only available in the year 2002
Shirley Sullivan
04:18 PM ET (US)
Dear Peter

you are correct: some publishers insist on password access. This is a pest for us of course, but we manage

At 08:12 AM 1/31/02 -0600, you wrote:

Shirley Sullivan
Electronic Information Coordinator
Information Division
University of Melbourne
Australia 3010
phone + 61 3 8344 5363
fax + 61 3 8344 5221
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SAndra Kennedy
03:00 PM ET (US)
New England Journal of Medicine with their 5 IP addresses. The library administers four print subscriptions, three of which are for an institution that does not support workstation-specific IP addresses. They advised making NEJM accessible on five machines using my administrator ID and password for one sub. and an old authorised user ID and password for another plus auto login, but will not give me another ID and password for the third subscription.
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Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
09:12 AM ET (US)
Academic Medicine via Highwire. This appears to require a username/password login. No IP access. Correct?
Kirsten Magee
03:22 AM ET (US)
Lippincott: "You can't use the same e-mail address twice". There's a way round this. Lippincott knows of this problem themselves and advises that you change different letters each time to upper case, ie our address now has variations such as Edl-journals@ , eDl-journals@ and so on.
Edited 01-31-2002 10:32 AM
Tommy Kagner
03:10 AM ET (US)
Lippincott: The subscription number may also be for a subscription agent, thus making one number the same for hundreds of subscribers. Consequently, when you try to register, the number is taken by another subscriber!
Allison Taylor
04:55 PM ET (US)
Actually, any Lippincott, Williams & Wilkins title. You get one password per subscription, but you can have 15 titles under one subscription number! And you can't use the same email address twice! And you can't change any institutional details once you've entered them! I could go on....
Kent Mulliner
04:48 PM ET (US)
Spine from Lippincott, Williams & Wilkins, Not only another password only (unless you pay a 25-30% site-license surcharge. But having registered earlier for password, they now say that it needs updating but can't update because already registered with my e-mail address.
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
02:13 PM ET (US)
Mosby: I recently talked to someone at Mosby, and was told that access is now only available via username/password.
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
02:10 PM ET (US)
Oil & Gas Journal: "Please note we do not offer IP address's at this time and you should be the only person accessing this account."
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
01:26 PM ET (US)
American Journal of Health-System Pharmacy - "Online full-text AJHP articles and archived issues are now only available to ASHP members and AJHP subscribers through a login system based on an ASHP identification number." This is of no help, since everyone eligible must be told the access code. If this is publicly displayed, then the world will have access. IP access would stop that.
Peter ScottPerson was signed in when posted
01:18 PM ET (US)
This QuickTopic has been set up for discussing e-journal access issues, particularly those cases where access is NOT by IP address i.e. must have a username/password; single-machine access; the "5 IP-only"; restricted to Thursdays; etc. Post the titles causing you grief, the publishers causing you to age prematurely, and so on....

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