Jesse M.  04-29-2003
03:00 AM ET (US)
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Looks like they left out the Nostromo, from "Alien". Edited 04-29-2003 03:02 AM
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Thomas Terashima 04-28-2003
08:52 PM ET (US)
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Bob: The "Discovery" is in the 1X frame link (to the far right, and down), accessible from the main page. It may be a few pixels short. I'd like to see the "Leonov" from 2010, as well. Note that the "Space: 1999" Eagle is *way* too big. (About twice canonical length.) tom -=W=- Edited 04-28-2003 10:26 PM
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Bob R. Kenyon 04-28-2003
02:06 PM ET (US)
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Hey, where's the ship Discovery (as well as the Space Station) from "2001: A Space Odyssey"? It may be old and dated, but the look of that movie was great.
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chico haas 04-28-2003
12:06 PM ET (US)
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Nice site. Done initially and more broadly, on paper, in the 1980 book, "Comparisons", by the London-based Diagrams Group.
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Roland Piquepaille 04-28-2003
11:54 AM ET (US)
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Last year, during the "Nuit Blanche" in Paris, the Arcade team, from the Project Blinkenlights in Germany, draws images on one of the towers of the Bibliothèque nationale de France. The display had 20 x 26 pixels, for an area of 3,370m2. This means each pixel was about six square meters!
Check the details at Sleepless Night in Paris: Come and See the World's Largest Computer Screen -- and Play Tetris.
Roland.
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el wombato 04-28-2003
10:41 AM ET (US)
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Skyscraper images were shamelessly stolen from here. Starfleet ships from here.
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kisrael 04-28-2003
10:38 AM ET (US)
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man, it's kind of goofy that death star 2 is so much bigger. Just fix that damn hole, and you'd be all set. Instead, it's just one of those "well, we have to make it bigger and more menacing so the sequal sounds even better than the original that everyone loves"
Actually, the whole "which sci fi fleet would win" idea is kind of odd...a fun intellectual exercise, but people seem to think that "more powerful starships" equals "better scifi". I could write a story about a fleet so powerful it would use the death star 2 laser as a *battery* for one of its ships, but that doesn't mean it'd be good scifi.
And now I'm kneedeep in "Starcraft", which is brining a lot of my old scifi doodles and wardreams to life.
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kisrael 04-28-2003
10:28 AM ET (US)
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http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/ is the best Star Wars vs. Trek I've seen. Clear advantage for the Emporer. (Probably because Star Wars has its roots in war movies, and Trek is more a tradition of frontier exploration.) I especially like the description of why the Empire shuns transporters; force-sensitive people can tell that it's not teleportation, it's murder at the sending end and cloning (including thoughts and memories) at the receiving end...
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Ian Wood 04-28-2003
10:14 AM ET (US)
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It had to be, to fully mask the tremendous failure of Mister Lucas to come up with a different plot.
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Thomas Terashima 04-28-2003
06:21 AM ET (US)
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The bigger "Star Wars" ships are in the 10 metres per pixel frame ("-10x" link off of the main page). Babylons 4 and 5 are there, as well. The *really* big ships are in the "-2000x" frame. Everyone knew that the the second "Death Star" was way bigger than the first, right? tom -=W=- Edited 04-28-2003 06:31 AM
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jose! 04-28-2003
05:43 AM ET (US)
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Where's the ship from Space Balls? In both configurations!
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jose! 04-28-2003
05:32 AM ET (US)
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If the story takes place in the Star Trek universe, hell yeah I'd take the Federation. After all, with a million to one odds, they still make it.
If it took place in the Star Wars universe, then I'd still take the Federation, since Good has to triumph. Any discussion of real-world physics is pretty pointless. It's about moving the story along.
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Young Freud 04-28-2003
03:12 AM ET (US)
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I really ought to ask that guy to add some ships and aliens (and yes, I mean aliens, not alien ships; they're that big) from Gunbuster. Nothing beats the Buster Machine 3 "Black Hole Bomb" for sheer size, mass and destructive capability.
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Rattmouth 04-28-2003
02:48 AM ET (US)
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I think the most fun thing about that site is building your own ship out of those ships. Here's mine... ( http://www.rattmouth.com/ship.jpg). Matt Edited 04-28-2003 02:50 AM
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Jonathan Rouse 04-28-2003
02:19 AM ET (US)
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Jesse - that debate is settled; the Empire would win. I don't believe there are any Federation warships capable of destroying an M Class planet. Imagine the number of photon torpedoes required to destroy Alderan. The battle would be short and sweet. And in terms of hand to hand combat, Lord Vader's ability to cut off his opponent's oxygen with the merest pinch of his thumb & forefinger (even over a viewscreen) makes Spock's lame nerve pinch crap look like the Kids In The Hall's "I'm Crushing Your Head" manouver. Seriously - is there anyone out there who would take Trek? Anyone?
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Jesse M. 04-27-2003
10:17 PM ET (US)
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Jeez, they have like every ship that ever appeared on star trek, but only a few of the smallest and wimpiest star wars ships...how will we be able to settle the age-old debate about whether the empire could take the federation in a fight?
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